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	<title>Comments on: Garena raised $2M seed investment from Toivo Annus</title>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.motochan.com/2008/10/23/garena-raised-2m-seed-investment-from-toivo-annus/comment-page-1/#comment-5603</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garena? no kidding man, these guys can&#039;t hack it.

they are just hosting PvPGN...dun see them contributing back to the open-source community in any way.

Their website is running off Joomla and really cringe-worthy. Makes one wonder why their coding skills are so bad.

These guys are just a bunch of sysadmins, not hackers. Toivo Annus is investing in Garena because of their huge user base.

I wonder why the Singapore government is co-investing in the deal. These guys have no IP, the business model is somewhat suspect.

Take a look @ PvPGN&#039;s predecessor Bnetd which was shut down by Blizzard Gaming (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnetd).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garena? no kidding man, these guys can&#8217;t hack it.</p>
<p>they are just hosting PvPGN&#8230;dun see them contributing back to the open-source community in any way.</p>
<p>Their website is running off Joomla and really cringe-worthy. Makes one wonder why their coding skills are so bad.</p>
<p>These guys are just a bunch of sysadmins, not hackers. Toivo Annus is investing in Garena because of their huge user base.</p>
<p>I wonder why the Singapore government is co-investing in the deal. These guys have no IP, the business model is somewhat suspect.</p>
<p>Take a look @ PvPGN&#8217;s predecessor Bnetd which was shut down by Blizzard Gaming (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnetd).</p>
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		<title>By: A Wish for Smarter Money in Singapore — Master Of The Obvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Wish for Smarter Money in Singapore — Master Of The Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my friend&#8217;s start-up, Discoveri.o), Toivo Annus (of Ambient Sound Investments, who btw is an investor in Garena) and Joichi Ito.  After all, experience does matter in early-stage investments.  While VCs rely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my friend&#8217;s start-up, Discoveri.o), Toivo Annus (of Ambient Sound Investments, who btw is an investor in Garena) and Joichi Ito.  After all, experience does matter in early-stage investments.  While VCs rely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats to garena for landing a great investor.
although i think the space is a little crowded but i think there is room to grow.
would love to know more about the next round of financing requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats to garena for landing a great investor.<br />
although i think the space is a little crowded but i think there is room to grow.<br />
would love to know more about the next round of financing requirements.</p>
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